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Press ALTGR

Post by armsys » Sun Dec 15, 2002 8:51 am

Would you please explain following keyboard commands

Press ALTGR,
Release ALTGR?

What exactly does ALTGR stand for?

Thanks.

Armstrong Wong
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Ernest

Post by Ernest » Sun Dec 15, 2002 9:47 am

Hi Armstrong,
The ALTGR key can be used as an equivalent of the combined keys CTRL+ALT. Try it by assigning a hotkey "CTRL+ALT+" to a MSched script, and use ALTGR+" afterwards. 8)

It's main use is to be able to use a third function wich is assigned to a single key (e.g. the "\" on a German keyboard). We both know ... :wink:

BTW: ALTGR+DEL won't work on my box to replace CTRL+ALT+DEL :?:

Ernest

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Post by armsys » Sun Dec 15, 2002 10:04 am

Hi Ernest,

Thanks for your prompt reply espeically on Sunday. Your "insider" knowledge on Macro Scheduler is exceedingly impressive. None of the available documents could provide the details you are very kind enough to share with us. The connection between ALTGR and CTRL + ALT is beyond my imagination. Of course, I was wondering why CTRL+ALT was missing from the keyboard commands.

FYI, Chinese character input doesn't require CTRL+ALT.

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Armstrong
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Post by support » Sun Dec 15, 2002 7:19 pm

ALT-GR appears on the right of my keyboard. It is the right hand alt key.
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Post by armsys » Sun Dec 15, 2002 11:08 pm

Hi Support,

Thanks for your remark. Now we can decipher "R", which may mean the right-hand side. What about "G"? Could that imply "German"?

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Post by armsys » Mon Dec 16, 2002 1:58 am

Let's say that Support is correct in stating ALTGR is meant for right-hand ALT. Then, it leads to 2 questions:
1. Which keyboard command is intended for left-hand ALT?
2. How can we simulate CTRL + ALT?

Technically, left- and right-hand ALT keys generate different keycodes. How about the left- and right-hand Window keys?

BTW, does Macro Scheduler support all virtual keys listed on
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/defau ... ycodes.asp? How?

FYI, http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/psdk/ ... s_529f.htm listed in Command_ref_7.1.pdf (page 35) was discontinued a long time ago.

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Ernest

Post by Ernest » Mon Dec 16, 2002 8:23 pm

Hi folks,
the main words of the following description are seems to be d'alternate Graphics. Isn't it nice to know! Rgds, Ernest.

/alt-G-R/ np.

[KEY] Abrév. d'alternate Graphics. Nom de la touche du clavier étendu des PC, située à droite de la barre d'espace, et qui simule l'appui simultané de control et d'alt, qui permettait, à l'origine, d'obtenir des caractères graphiques (e.g. bordures de tableau), et qui donne accès maintenant à toutes sortes de caractères spéciaux.

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Post by armsys » Mon Dec 16, 2002 9:00 pm

Hi Ernest,

Thanks for your discovery. Could you kindly translate the French note?
[KEY] Abrév. d'alternate Graphics. Nom de la touche du clavier étendu des PC, située à droite de la barre d'espace, et qui simule l'appui simultané de control et d'alt, qui permettait, à l'origine, d'obtenir des caractères graphiques (e.g. bordures de tableau), et qui donne accès maintenant à toutes sortes de caractères spéciaux.
Forgive my verboseness, how could we code keyboard command to simulate CTRL + ALT? How can send keyboard scancode in Macro Scheduler script?

Many, many, many thanks.

Cheers,
Armstrong Wong
Hong Kong

Ernest

Post by Ernest » Mon Dec 16, 2002 9:59 pm

OK,nun für die Deutschen/now for the Germans.

AltGr
andere Bezeichnung: keine
AltGr ist die Abkürzung für Alternative graphische Belegung.
Ruft die Drittbelegung der Tasten auf.
Drittbelegungen sind z. B.:

@ = AltGr + Q
µ = AltGr + M
€ = AltGr + E
{ = AltGr + 7

Quelle: http://www.borkpc.de/lex/1a.php

Ernest




Hi Armstrong,
the french text describes the same as it's already said in the previous postings. 8)

AltGr is the abbreviation for: alternative graphical assignment
calls a third function wich is assigned to a key.

Sample: "@ = AltGr+Q" (German keyboard layout)
looks MSched coded like this ...

Code: Select all

Press CTRL
Press Alt
Send>q
Release Alt
Release CTRL
if the German keyboard layout is set, it should create the @-sign :)

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