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	<title>Comments on: Rant: Windows Apps Should LOOK Like Windows Apps!</title>
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		<title>By: tom s.</title>
		<link>http://www.mjtnet.com/blog/2006/06/01/rant-windows-apps-should-look-like-windows-apps/#comment-3546</link>
		<dc:creator>tom s.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Sep 2006 12:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, but with reservations.

There is a tension between standards and innovation. I remember a couple of Adobe apps where the OK button was to the right of the Cancel button and it drove me up the wall, so I'm on side with you to that extent.

However, Microsoft ends up defining what a Windows app looks like and behaves like, so if all but Microsoft has to follow one rule ("make your apps look like Windows apps") and Microsoft follows another ("define what a Windows app looks like") then Microsoft becomes the only vendor with the ability to innovate - and that's not a good thing.

There have been many cases of UI innovation outside Microsoft, of course. I think Borland introduced wizards and tabbed dialogs, for example. And where would the Windows world be without them?

So with that reservation, perhaps we should say "..like Windows apps, unless you have a really good reason."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, but with reservations.</p>
<p>There is a tension between standards and innovation. I remember a couple of Adobe apps where the OK button was to the right of the Cancel button and it drove me up the wall, so I&#8217;m on side with you to that extent.</p>
<p>However, Microsoft ends up defining what a Windows app looks like and behaves like, so if all but Microsoft has to follow one rule (&#8221;make your apps look like Windows apps&#8221;) and Microsoft follows another (&#8221;define what a Windows app looks like&#8221;) then Microsoft becomes the only vendor with the ability to innovate - and that&#8217;s not a good thing.</p>
<p>There have been many cases of UI innovation outside Microsoft, of course. I think Borland introduced wizards and tabbed dialogs, for example. And where would the Windows world be without them?</p>
<p>So with that reservation, perhaps we should say &#8220;..like Windows apps, unless you have a really good reason.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Higginbotham</title>
		<link>http://www.mjtnet.com/blog/2006/06/01/rant-windows-apps-should-look-like-windows-apps/#comment-3529</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Higginbotham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 19:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally agree!  I actually wrote an article on a related subject if you want to check it out: http://www.flyingmachinestudios.com/2006/9/6/how-to-think-about-user-experience-br-interaction-models
It talks about how consistency is essential to helping your users form simple, accurate mental models of your system - in this case, the nokia program completely lacks "external consistency". What a pain!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree!  I actually wrote an article on a related subject if you want to check it out: <a href="http://www.flyingmachinestudios.com/2006/9/6/how-to-think-about-user-experience-br-interaction-models" rel="nofollow">http://www.flyingmachinestudios.com/2006/9/6/how-to-think-about-user-experience-br-interaction-models</a><br />
It talks about how consistency is essential to helping your users form simple, accurate mental models of your system - in this case, the nokia program completely lacks &#8220;external consistency&#8221;. What a pain!</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
		<link>http://www.mjtnet.com/blog/2006/06/01/rant-windows-apps-should-look-like-windows-apps/#comment-3502</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2006 22:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You forgot something. Windows apps should also WORK like windows apps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You forgot something. Windows apps should also WORK like windows apps.</p>
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		<title>By: Whatever</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whatever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2006 22:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point is "differentiation" - making the app "stand out".

Especially in installers, this should make it stand out as being completely evil, and shows that the author cared more about their own needs than what would actually serve the customer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point is &#8220;differentiation&#8221; - making the app &#8220;stand out&#8221;.</p>
<p>Especially in installers, this should make it stand out as being completely evil, and shows that the author cared more about their own needs than what would actually serve the customer.</p>
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		<title>By: iWantTo KeepAnon</title>
		<link>http://www.mjtnet.com/blog/2006/06/01/rant-windows-apps-should-look-like-windows-apps/#comment-3499</link>
		<dc:creator>iWantTo KeepAnon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2006 22:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D@mn straight.  The biggest offenders are in the art-sy community.  Media players, cd burners, etc....

I just about drop kicked some cd software out the door cuz it didnt use the common file open window.  I had a long filename on my clipboard but no "address" field to paste it in.  Instead I had to double click navigate on my company's lan down quite a few very populated directories.  Having to scan the file list each time.

.... wasnt a happy camper afterwards ....  oh, BTW, the look and feel sucks compared to the CUI guidelines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D@mn straight.  The biggest offenders are in the art-sy community.  Media players, cd burners, etc&#8230;.</p>
<p>I just about drop kicked some cd software out the door cuz it didnt use the common file open window.  I had a long filename on my clipboard but no &#8220;address&#8221; field to paste it in.  Instead I had to double click navigate on my company&#8217;s lan down quite a few very populated directories.  Having to scan the file list each time.</p>
<p>&#8230;. wasnt a happy camper afterwards &#8230;.  oh, BTW, the look and feel sucks compared to the CUI guidelines.</p>
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