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		<title>By: Windows scripting and Windows Macro Automation utilities - automate your PC with Windows scripting for Win9x/NT/ME/2000/XP.</title>
		<link>http://www.mjtnet.com/blog/2006/01/17/how-to-start-writing-an-automation-script/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>Windows scripting and Windows Macro Automation utilities - automate your PC with Windows scripting for Win9x/NT/ME/2000/XP.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2006 09:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Cosmo asked in his comment on How to Start Writing an Automation Script how he could set the position of a desktop shortcut. This is an interesting question that hasn&#8217;t come up before and it took me a while to realise how it could be done. You may wonder why you&#8217;d even want to do it. Well if you&#8217;re automating software installations for your end-user or customer machines you may want to make sure the desktop icons are always in the same place. You may want to put a link to your support site in the top right of the screen, for example, so that your customer can always find it. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Cosmo asked in his comment on How to Start Writing an Automation Script how he could set the position of a desktop shortcut. This is an interesting question that hasn&#8217;t come up before and it took me a while to realise how it could be done. You may wonder why you&#8217;d even want to do it. Well if you&#8217;re automating software installations for your end-user or customer machines you may want to make sure the desktop icons are always in the same place. You may want to put a link to your support site in the top right of the screen, for example, so that your customer can always find it. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: marcus</title>
		<link>http://www.mjtnet.com/blog/2006/01/17/how-to-start-writing-an-automation-script/#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2006 07:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no objections at all to you building a script repository on your site.  That would be great.  Go for it.  

Hmmm.  Changing desktop icon positions.  That's an unusual request.  Let me think about that and maybe I'll post something later ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no objections at all to you building a script repository on your site.  That would be great.  Go for it.  </p>
<p>Hmmm.  Changing desktop icon positions.  That&#8217;s an unusual request.  Let me think about that and maybe I&#8217;ll post something later &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Cosmo</title>
		<link>http://www.mjtnet.com/blog/2006/01/17/how-to-start-writing-an-automation-script/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>Cosmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2006 04:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marcus,

Thanks for replying, although I've only attempted MJT Net contact twice, both times your response was extremely fast and professional. Customer support is a HUGE plus in my opinion for any company to have, and I feel like I can count on it from mjtnet. I just plunked down my order for your 8.0 pro version.

After I invest what looks like a ton of hours to create all the scripts I need to accomplish the project I have in mind for Macro Scheduler, would you object at all to me creating a wepage (perhaps on my company website) that lists all of the available scripts in all of your forums, for simple downloads (un-zipped maybe just .txt files) so that people wouldn't have to wade through forums to get valuable scripts? But of course with a heavy disclaimer that they are not certified, un-tested, use at your own risk kind of thing?

I excavated a lot of the scripts I need to modify for my use to make my project fly, from several other forums in addition to the scripts &#38; tips forum.

Ok, now to go spend my weekend learning even more about Macro Scheduler use, and you'll probably hear from me (in the forums) requesting how to position icons on the desktop &#38; use an .exe to automate software installs off a checklist, configures, and reboots, repeat several times, etc. (unless of course during my self training I can figure those things out..  :)

Thank you for creating such a wonderful, and powerful product!
Cosmo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marcus,</p>
<p>Thanks for replying, although I&#8217;ve only attempted MJT Net contact twice, both times your response was extremely fast and professional. Customer support is a HUGE plus in my opinion for any company to have, and I feel like I can count on it from mjtnet. I just plunked down my order for your 8.0 pro version.</p>
<p>After I invest what looks like a ton of hours to create all the scripts I need to accomplish the project I have in mind for Macro Scheduler, would you object at all to me creating a wepage (perhaps on my company website) that lists all of the available scripts in all of your forums, for simple downloads (un-zipped maybe just .txt files) so that people wouldn&#8217;t have to wade through forums to get valuable scripts? But of course with a heavy disclaimer that they are not certified, un-tested, use at your own risk kind of thing?</p>
<p>I excavated a lot of the scripts I need to modify for my use to make my project fly, from several other forums in addition to the scripts &amp; tips forum.</p>
<p>Ok, now to go spend my weekend learning even more about Macro Scheduler use, and you&#8217;ll probably hear from me (in the forums) requesting how to position icons on the desktop &amp; use an .exe to automate software installs off a checklist, configures, and reboots, repeat several times, etc. (unless of course during my self training I can figure those things out..  <img src='http://www.mjtnet.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thank you for creating such a wonderful, and powerful product!<br />
Cosmo</p>
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		<title>By: marcus</title>
		<link>http://www.mjtnet.com/blog/2006/01/17/how-to-start-writing-an-automation-script/#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator>marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A web page with a list of all the script snippets is a great idea and already exists - it's the &lt;a href="http://www.mjtnet.com/usergroup/viewforum.php?f=9 rel="nofollow"&gt;Scripts &#038; Tips&lt;/a&gt; section of the forum &lt;a href="http://www.mjtnet.com/usergroup/viewforum.php?f=9 rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. 
The trouble is that the majority of the scripts and code snippets in the rest of the forum are examples written by other people to explain how to do something.  Often they are untested pieces of code in answer to a poster's question.  Many are dependent on third party applications.  We wouldn't be able to vouch for them as useful independent scripts.   They can only describe key concepts rather than solve specific problems.

I do understand that when you have a complex process to script you need to spend time figuring out ways of doing what you want and finding the answers can take time.  The problem with a tutorial is that it still won't solve YOUR problem.  A tutorial can only have generic examples which will work for everyone, and can only explain the key features and tools that will be useful in every scenario.  Unfortunately you need to take these building blocks to start building your solution.   Even if we happened to have a tutorial which solved all your problems, someone else will still have unanswered questions.  So we try to concentrate on the most important concepts which will be used in every case.  When I started programming in C++ I had exactly the same problem.  And still I have found no book or tutorial which shows me code to program a scripting language.  The thousands of C++ books that exist can only describe key concepts and code.  No one can predict what someone is going to do with the language.

There is one way you can get help for your specific scnario.  Email us.  Post a message to the forum.  The possibilities of Macro Scheduler are endless and the number of solutions is infinite.  It is impossible to provide examples which will solve everyone's problem without the user needing to do a certain amount of work.  But if you email our support team, and/or post a message to the forum, describing what you want to achieve we can talk through your precise requirements and pull all the pieces together and get you well on your way.

We are working on producing training material and certification which would help enormously.  Watch this space ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A web page with a list of all the script snippets is a great idea and already exists - it&#8217;s the <a href="http://www.mjtnet.com/usergroup/viewforum.php?f=9 rel="nofollow">Scripts &#038; Tips</a> section of the forum <a href="http://www.mjtnet.com/usergroup/viewforum.php?f=9 rel="nofollow">here</a>.<br />
The trouble is that the majority of the scripts and code snippets in the rest of the forum are examples written by other people to explain how to do something.  Often they are untested pieces of code in answer to a poster&#8217;s question.  Many are dependent on third party applications.  We wouldn&#8217;t be able to vouch for them as useful independent scripts.   They can only describe key concepts rather than solve specific problems.</p>
<p>I do understand that when you have a complex process to script you need to spend time figuring out ways of doing what you want and finding the answers can take time.  The problem with a tutorial is that it still won&#8217;t solve YOUR problem.  A tutorial can only have generic examples which will work for everyone, and can only explain the key features and tools that will be useful in every scenario.  Unfortunately you need to take these building blocks to start building your solution.   Even if we happened to have a tutorial which solved all your problems, someone else will still have unanswered questions.  So we try to concentrate on the most important concepts which will be used in every case.  When I started programming in C++ I had exactly the same problem.  And still I have found no book or tutorial which shows me code to program a scripting language.  The thousands of C++ books that exist can only describe key concepts and code.  No one can predict what someone is going to do with the language.</p>
<p>There is one way you can get help for your specific scnario.  Email us.  Post a message to the forum.  The possibilities of Macro Scheduler are endless and the number of solutions is infinite.  It is impossible to provide examples which will solve everyone&#8217;s problem without the user needing to do a certain amount of work.  But if you email our support team, and/or post a message to the forum, describing what you want to achieve we can talk through your precise requirements and pull all the pieces together and get you well on your way.</p>
<p>We are working on producing training material and certification which would help enormously.  Watch this space &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Cosmo</title>
		<link>http://www.mjtnet.com/blog/2006/01/17/how-to-start-writing-an-automation-script/#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>Cosmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Such a powerful, powerful product that can do so much! Truly a wonderful thing.

However, I think many people that use it are not programmers, and may be new to the Macro interface windows as well - so a much more robust tutorial section would be great. This blog area had some terrific tips!

My problem, I'm pretty tech saavy, but I had to wade through endless forums to copy &#38; paste a huge number of scripts that would aid in my particular needs for what I want to do. Spent maybe 3 hours and ended up with a bunch of text files that I intend to use status quo or modify to do my needed automation. This is so time consuming and frustrating because I still couldn't find simple answers or scripts to some of my most in-depth questions, like if I make an executable that reboots the computer, after logging back in - how could I get scheduler to continue scripts off a checklist, continue rebooting &#38; installing, and finally stop &#38; permanently delete itself from the computer. (I know it's an .exe so just have it delete itselft yeah) but what about the rest?

I think it would be the most INCREDIBLE VALUE (in the world) TO ALL CUSTOMERS (and not just my needs) if a webpage were developed that made available ALL of the scripts posted in ALL of the forums!  Sort them by type or function, or give options to sort them to users. Kind of a huge library of all scripts you would ever need to do most everything! This way a new user with a big project (like me) can get a large number of scripts that do the basic things relevant to their needs, quickly and not have to wade through endless forums or create a large number of custom scripts. Why re-invent the wheel?

Getting ready to plunk down the $ for 8.0 full package, but was just overwhelmed by the amount of work it is going to take me to create the scripts I will need to automate installing software packages, running them to configure multitudes of settings, rebooting, and customizing XP user profiles.

One burning thing I could not find in any forum, how to position desktop shortcut icons at specific locations on the desktop. Or how to create another user, say a limited user account, then log-off, log-on to the new account, change a bunch of default windows settings, log back off and back into the administrator account. Mainly we are 98% XP tech support company (as side note) Sorry if I posted this in wrong place but forums are crowded, and email directly to Marcus might not allow feedback here to this blog area for others who might be using schedular with the similar issues that I mentioned.

Aloha,
Cosmo - PS: MACRO IS AMAZING SOFTWARE, IT'S VERY IMPRESSIVE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Such a powerful, powerful product that can do so much! Truly a wonderful thing.</p>
<p>However, I think many people that use it are not programmers, and may be new to the Macro interface windows as well - so a much more robust tutorial section would be great. This blog area had some terrific tips!</p>
<p>My problem, I&#8217;m pretty tech saavy, but I had to wade through endless forums to copy &amp; paste a huge number of scripts that would aid in my particular needs for what I want to do. Spent maybe 3 hours and ended up with a bunch of text files that I intend to use status quo or modify to do my needed automation. This is so time consuming and frustrating because I still couldn&#8217;t find simple answers or scripts to some of my most in-depth questions, like if I make an executable that reboots the computer, after logging back in - how could I get scheduler to continue scripts off a checklist, continue rebooting &amp; installing, and finally stop &amp; permanently delete itself from the computer. (I know it&#8217;s an .exe so just have it delete itselft yeah) but what about the rest?</p>
<p>I think it would be the most INCREDIBLE VALUE (in the world) TO ALL CUSTOMERS (and not just my needs) if a webpage were developed that made available ALL of the scripts posted in ALL of the forums!  Sort them by type or function, or give options to sort them to users. Kind of a huge library of all scripts you would ever need to do most everything! This way a new user with a big project (like me) can get a large number of scripts that do the basic things relevant to their needs, quickly and not have to wade through endless forums or create a large number of custom scripts. Why re-invent the wheel?</p>
<p>Getting ready to plunk down the $ for 8.0 full package, but was just overwhelmed by the amount of work it is going to take me to create the scripts I will need to automate installing software packages, running them to configure multitudes of settings, rebooting, and customizing XP user profiles.</p>
<p>One burning thing I could not find in any forum, how to position desktop shortcut icons at specific locations on the desktop. Or how to create another user, say a limited user account, then log-off, log-on to the new account, change a bunch of default windows settings, log back off and back into the administrator account. Mainly we are 98% XP tech support company (as side note) Sorry if I posted this in wrong place but forums are crowded, and email directly to Marcus might not allow feedback here to this blog area for others who might be using schedular with the similar issues that I mentioned.</p>
<p>Aloha,<br />
Cosmo - PS: MACRO IS AMAZING SOFTWARE, IT&#8217;S VERY IMPRESSIVE!</p>
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